[cvsnt] Where to download CVSNT v2.0.5

Galevsky galevsky at gmail.com
Tue Feb 12 09:18:17 GMT 2008

On Feb 11, 2008 11:39 PM, Arthur Barrett <arthur.barrett at march-hare.com> wrote:

> <snip>
> CVSNT 2.5.03 is as different to CVSNT 2.0.5 as SVN is to CVSNT.
> CVSNT 2.5.03 has rename support, mergepoints, failsafe audit, e-mail
> integration, changesets, atomic checkout etc etc - most of which SVN
> does not.
> Upgrade to CVSNT 2.5.03 and start using the new features then see if you
> still require migration (you probably will not).

Thanks for your reply. I used to manage my code with different SCM and
know the issues... under linux. Nowadays, my boss want to switch to
SVN... it is not a point to discuss. So, I am just looking at how can
I do that. If only we were on linux.... no pb at all, cvs2svn works
perfectly, no need of e-mail integration, nor fail safe audit, light
scripting and powerful shell provide everything possible.... but we
are running a dumb windows server. And I read on tigris website that
migration from CVSNT may fail or work partially. So I decided to run
tests with a few binaries and text files into a CVSNT server and try a
migration. But to be relevant, my tests require the same version of
our current CVSNT server.... but if no more info is written down into
the repository with latest v2.5, I can use v2.5 instead for sure. If
information are not exactly the same, I need a v2.0.5 server....

> There was a great article on the valuation of IT assets published in The
> Financial Times UK Edition 36,501 on Monday October 1 2007, and I
> believe the author will be releasing the complete whitepaper soon.
> Basically it talks about the lack of business cases for the benefit of
> software and also the business case for maintaining legacy assets.  The
> costs of replacing software like CVS for SVN are astronomical and rarely
> worth it to the business, except perhaps that techie employees who like
> playing with the latest gadgets are less likely to leave that week/month
> for some other company, thereby reducing employee turnover.

It is true that 'migrate for pleasure' is painful in business. But on
a stable linux system, no problem at all to leave CVS for SVN. No
problem with developers -they have already used SVN too- in my case.

> When choosing any software tool it is best to know what features you
> require and then look for the tool that offers those features, or even
> better look for what your goals are, then look for a process that
> supports that, then look for tools that can implement that process.  For
> instance knowing 'what' changed may be useless without knowing what else
> changed - so you need to relate changes to one another and maybe
> external events like project tasks, bugs or something else: so you would
> need tools that support changesets and links to a system that tracks
> those external events.

True. The dpt leader is a professional too, who knows what SVN and CVS are...

> When replacing one system with another it is important to know the real
> value to the business that the change will bring, and the total cost of
> that change relative to the total benefit to the business.  See the
> abovementioned FT article for more information.

No need to see, I know. But it is not my decision, even if I thought
that such a migration had a very low priority... I have to do it now.

> I do not believe you will get any value from moving from CVSNT to SVN.
> If there is something in particular you require, why not support the
> product that has supported you for so many years and let the community
> know what those features are and why you need them?

As said earlier, my boss want and it is sufficient :) . It is possible
to migrate. He prefers that we use SVN. He budget for it. We will do



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